1 00:00:01,015 --> 00:00:03,671 On the western side of South America 2 00:00:03,756 --> 00:00:07,609 is a land of exotic jungles, vast plains, 3 00:00:07,770 --> 00:00:10,936 and astounding archaeological sites. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,643 All throughout that region of the world, 5 00:00:13,728 --> 00:00:15,494 we have some of the most 6 00:00:15,579 --> 00:00:19,632 incredible Architectural structures on planet Earth. 7 00:00:20,439 --> 00:00:22,838 But could new discoveries... reveal 8 00:00:22,923 --> 00:00:24,737 that the true history of Peru 9 00:00:24,822 --> 00:00:28,367 is far more incredible than we ever imagined? 10 00:00:28,547 --> 00:00:31,290 The dating of Caral has really put into question 11 00:00:31,375 --> 00:00:33,898 the origins of civilization and the planet. 12 00:00:34,060 --> 00:00:36,980 This excavation has put the entire region 13 00:00:37,065 --> 00:00:38,409 into a new light. 14 00:00:38,494 --> 00:00:40,031 Ancient Astronaut Theorist 15 00:00:40,115 --> 00:00:44,284 Giorgio Tsoukalos is joined by author David Childress 16 00:00:44,436 --> 00:00:47,437 and investigative mythologist William Henry 17 00:00:47,671 --> 00:00:50,679 to examine evidence suggesting that Peru 18 00:00:50,764 --> 00:00:54,921 was home to an advanced civilization thousands of years ago... 19 00:00:55,443 --> 00:00:57,742 These discoveries are changing the face 20 00:00:57,892 --> 00:00:59,977 of south American Archaeology. 21 00:01:00,061 --> 00:01:03,837 And was influenced by beings from another world. 22 00:01:04,305 --> 00:01:07,438 The message is consistent throughout all these discoveries 23 00:01:07,523 --> 00:01:10,665 that extraterrestrials were helping to advance us. 24 00:01:10,750 --> 00:01:13,179 I mean, this is about as exciting as it gets. 25 00:01:16,035 --> 00:01:19,609 There is a doorway in the universe. 26 00:01:20,639 --> 00:01:24,078 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 27 00:01:24,828 --> 00:01:27,743 It demands we question everything 28 00:01:27,828 --> 00:01:29,840 We have ever been taught. 29 00:01:30,181 --> 00:01:33,179 The evidence is all around us. 30 00:01:33,436 --> 00:01:37,694 The future is right before our eyes. 31 00:01:37,779 --> 00:01:40,355 We... are not alone. *ANCIENT ALIENS* 32 00:01:40,546 --> 00:01:43,608 We have never... been alone. Season 16 Episode 12 (IMDB) 33 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:48,366 Episode Title: "The Lost City Of Peru" 34 00:01:48,631 --> 00:01:49,960 Aired on: August 06, 2021. 35 00:01:50,116 --> 00:01:52,250 Peru is actually one of my favorite 36 00:01:52,335 --> 00:01:53,898 places to visit on the planet, 37 00:01:53,983 --> 00:01:55,899 and we've all been to Peru... 38 00:01:55,984 --> 00:01:58,095 This is what's so great about that whole region 39 00:01:58,180 --> 00:02:00,945 because it seems as if this whole area 40 00:02:01,085 --> 00:02:04,313 continues to give us new pieces of information. 41 00:02:04,398 --> 00:02:06,735 And we're just beginning to uncover what's actually there. 42 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:08,501 It's kind of like a wild frontier down there. 43 00:02:08,586 --> 00:02:11,360 I mean, worlds meet down there, don't they? 44 00:02:11,445 --> 00:02:13,297 It's really, uh, just 45 00:02:13,382 --> 00:02:17,141 the most mysterious place, and it's a very large country 46 00:02:17,366 --> 00:02:20,093 That goes from deserts along the coast 47 00:02:20,187 --> 00:02:21,851 up into the mountains, 48 00:02:22,186 --> 00:02:24,798 down into the jungles... It has literally 49 00:02:24,883 --> 00:02:27,548 - Every climate in the world. - Mm-hmm. 50 00:02:27,633 --> 00:02:30,032 And it's also a treasure trove 51 00:02:30,117 --> 00:02:32,095 for the Ancient Astronaut Theory 52 00:02:32,180 --> 00:02:35,134 - Yeah. - Because there are many megalithic sites 53 00:02:35,219 --> 00:02:37,814 and especially in the legends 54 00:02:37,899 --> 00:02:40,334 - and the mythologies of that place. - Yep. 55 00:02:40,514 --> 00:02:44,882 You have stories of giants and of, uh, Gods, 56 00:02:44,967 --> 00:02:46,828 the children of the Sun. 57 00:02:49,164 --> 00:02:52,531 The country of Peru in western South America 58 00:02:52,641 --> 00:02:56,313 is known for its many ancient archaeological wonders 59 00:02:56,398 --> 00:02:59,320 from the massive stone walls of Cusco 60 00:02:59,660 --> 00:03:03,361 to the magnificent terraces at Ollantaytambo, 61 00:03:03,492 --> 00:03:07,150 to the majestic mountain citadel of Machu Picchu. 62 00:03:07,963 --> 00:03:11,190 These incredible sites have long been connected 63 00:03:11,275 --> 00:03:12,814 to a great civilization 64 00:03:12,899 --> 00:03:16,064 that emerged in the 13th century AD 65 00:03:16,359 --> 00:03:18,611 Known as the Inca. 66 00:03:19,203 --> 00:03:21,806 The Inca pretty much 67 00:03:21,891 --> 00:03:24,423 not just dominated the landscape, 68 00:03:24,508 --> 00:03:27,509 they changed the landscape. 69 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:32,907 They had these major massive cities 70 00:03:32,992 --> 00:03:36,790 from one end of the Andes to the other end of the Andes. 71 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:39,759 And in between each of these cities, 72 00:03:39,859 --> 00:03:43,070 they had this incredible road network. 73 00:03:44,914 --> 00:03:46,579 We have to think about the Inca 74 00:03:46,664 --> 00:03:49,938 as... part of this aggressive trend 75 00:03:50,023 --> 00:03:53,469 of ideas and of culture and tradition. 76 00:03:54,953 --> 00:03:58,570 In 1526, Spanish Conquistadors, 77 00:03:58,712 --> 00:04:02,482 led by Francisco Pizarro, arrived in Peru, 78 00:04:02,875 --> 00:04:05,773 and over the course of the following four decades, 79 00:04:05,961 --> 00:04:08,351 conquered the Inca empire. 80 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:10,319 While the Inca only flourished 81 00:04:10,404 --> 00:04:12,937 for a little more than two centuries, 82 00:04:13,359 --> 00:04:16,422 mainstream Archaeologists remain astonished 83 00:04:16,507 --> 00:04:19,758 by their engineering and construction achievements. 84 00:04:22,406 --> 00:04:25,063 But a mounting body of evidence suggests 85 00:04:25,148 --> 00:04:28,711 many of Peru's astounding structures may, in fact, 86 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:32,297 have been built by a much earlier civilization. 87 00:04:33,508 --> 00:04:36,548 The Incas were pretty recent, really, to the Spanish. 88 00:04:36,633 --> 00:04:38,306 -They're not the oldest, - Right. 89 00:04:38,391 --> 00:04:39,837 They had only existed 90 00:04:39,922 --> 00:04:41,352 - about 200 years before - Right. 91 00:04:41,437 --> 00:04:42,773 - the Spanish arrived. - Yeah. 92 00:04:42,857 --> 00:04:45,673 And... allegedly, during that period, 93 00:04:45,758 --> 00:04:49,642 they built all these giant megaliths around Cusco, 94 00:04:49,727 --> 00:04:52,540 Sacsayhuamán, even Machu Picchu and Ollantaytambo, 95 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:54,102 and they would have just completed them 96 00:04:54,187 --> 00:04:55,829 - Wait... - Like, a hundred years before the Spanish. 97 00:04:55,914 --> 00:04:58,110 Wait a second, wait a second. But here's the deal. 98 00:04:58,195 --> 00:05:01,165 That is mainstream archaeology's opinion. 99 00:05:01,250 --> 00:05:03,110 When you ask the local, 100 00:05:03,195 --> 00:05:05,259 including the local archaeologists 101 00:05:05,344 --> 00:05:06,946 and tour guides, yes, 102 00:05:07,031 --> 00:05:10,196 they will tell tour groups that yes, this is all Inca, 103 00:05:10,281 --> 00:05:13,656 But when you have deep conversations with them, 104 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:17,595 they all agree that many of those structures 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,212 are pre-Inca. 106 00:05:19,297 --> 00:05:21,813 And this is where the opinions diverge. 107 00:05:21,898 --> 00:05:24,171 - Right. - Who were the pre-Inca? 108 00:05:25,444 --> 00:05:27,812 In April 2019, 109 00:05:28,077 --> 00:05:30,141 David Childress traveled to Peru 110 00:05:30,301 --> 00:05:33,110 with author Hugh Newman to meet 111 00:05:33,195 --> 00:05:34,921 with Jorge Luis Delgado, 112 00:05:35,093 --> 00:05:39,330 a local expert on and a descendant of the Inca. 113 00:05:39,624 --> 00:05:41,437 Jorge believes that many of 114 00:05:41,522 --> 00:05:44,179 Peru's incredible ancient structures do, 115 00:05:44,264 --> 00:05:47,015 in fact, predate the Inca. 116 00:06:08,570 --> 00:06:10,047 All right. Here we are. 117 00:06:10,132 --> 00:06:13,148 On this day, Jorge took David and Hugh 118 00:06:13,257 --> 00:06:15,930 to one of Peru's most mysterious sites: 119 00:06:16,015 --> 00:06:18,258 A location outside of Cusco 120 00:06:18,343 --> 00:06:20,890 known only as the x-zone. 121 00:06:21,234 --> 00:06:24,882 Overlooking the sprawling stone fortress of Sacsayhuamán, 122 00:06:25,069 --> 00:06:29,438 the x-zone is an impressive collection of megalithic ruins, 123 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:34,460 rock-cut monuments and a maze of underground tunnels. 124 00:06:57,843 --> 00:07:01,024 - It's incredible. - What kind of technology 125 00:07:01,109 --> 00:07:05,665 does it take to cut these so perfectly and straight 126 00:07:05,817 --> 00:07:09,821 And then fit them in where you can't fit 127 00:07:09,906 --> 00:07:13,281 A piece of paper or a razor blade in here. 128 00:07:13,914 --> 00:07:16,321 It seems like they're softening the stones somehow, 129 00:07:16,406 --> 00:07:18,605 and they're kind of shaping it and then putting it back in. 130 00:07:18,690 --> 00:07:20,421 Like some magical technology. 131 00:07:58,085 --> 00:08:00,289 Naylamp was the deity 132 00:08:00,374 --> 00:08:03,696 worshipped by the sican people who settled in northern Peru 133 00:08:03,781 --> 00:08:08,046 around 750 AD, centuries before the Inca. 134 00:08:08,398 --> 00:08:09,938 Their oral traditions 135 00:08:10,023 --> 00:08:12,696 describe Naylamp as a strange being 136 00:08:12,781 --> 00:08:14,938 with sharp birdlike features 137 00:08:15,023 --> 00:08:17,547 who, upon his death, sprouted wings 138 00:08:17,632 --> 00:08:20,240 and then ascended into the sky. 139 00:08:20,874 --> 00:08:23,366 Is it possible that these traditional beliefs 140 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:27,374 are grounded in fact, as the Sican people claim? 141 00:08:27,679 --> 00:08:30,547 And, if so, could Naylamp have been, 142 00:08:30,632 --> 00:08:33,038 as Ancient Astronaut Theorists suspect, 143 00:08:33,163 --> 00:08:35,570 An extraterrestrial being? 144 00:09:19,234 --> 00:09:22,344 I think that the Incas found these places. 145 00:09:22,429 --> 00:09:25,703 They identified them as very important, and they moved in. 146 00:09:25,788 --> 00:09:28,508 They say so in one of the earliest books 147 00:09:28,593 --> 00:09:30,359 written about that region. 148 00:09:30,460 --> 00:09:32,478 Diego De Landa was the one who wrote it. 149 00:09:32,631 --> 00:09:35,477 It says that the Incas themselves 150 00:09:35,562 --> 00:09:38,860 said this was not built by us. 151 00:09:38,945 --> 00:09:41,274 - We also have the local legends - Yeah. 152 00:09:41,359 --> 00:09:45,560 That say that there were celestial visitors. 153 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:49,953 They were not Gods. They were visiting extraterrestrials. 154 00:09:50,038 --> 00:09:51,367 Well, here's where now we get 155 00:09:51,452 --> 00:09:53,750 fact backing up the local knowledge, 156 00:09:53,835 --> 00:09:55,360 Lore, understanding in this. 157 00:09:55,445 --> 00:09:58,422 1994 Archaeologist Ruth Shady 158 00:09:58,507 --> 00:10:00,257 is exploring north of Lima, 159 00:10:00,342 --> 00:10:01,647 and she said "that... hill over there... 160 00:10:01,755 --> 00:10:03,547 - that looks artificial to me." - Mm-hmm. 161 00:10:03,632 --> 00:10:05,297 So she goes and gathers some soldiers. 162 00:10:05,382 --> 00:10:06,969 They do some excavating. 163 00:10:07,054 --> 00:10:08,969 Lo and behold, here's this... what? 164 00:10:09,054 --> 00:10:11,179 Ten-story-tall pyramid. 165 00:10:11,265 --> 00:10:13,688 and that became known as the site of... 166 00:10:13,773 --> 00:10:15,343 - Caral. - Right. 167 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:18,524 First discovered in 1905, 168 00:10:18,609 --> 00:10:23,172 the site of Caral-Supe, often referred to as simply Caral, 169 00:10:23,257 --> 00:10:26,195 was initially thought to be little more than a scattering 170 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,968 of insignificant and possibly modern ruins. 171 00:10:30,562 --> 00:10:34,453 But while investigating the site in 1994, 172 00:10:34,538 --> 00:10:37,960 Peruvian Archaeologist Ruth Shady Solís 173 00:10:38,062 --> 00:10:40,194 came to the astonishing revelation 174 00:10:40,304 --> 00:10:45,194 that Caral was once a vast and highly sophisticated city. 175 00:10:48,238 --> 00:10:52,476 When you visit Caral, you find a huge archaeological complex. 176 00:10:52,647 --> 00:10:56,358 There is a large Sunken amphitheater to the south. 177 00:10:56,554 --> 00:10:58,937 There's a major pyramid to the north 178 00:10:59,140 --> 00:11:02,000 And then there are more minor pyramids 179 00:11:02,085 --> 00:11:05,218 that surround a central area. 180 00:11:05,499 --> 00:11:08,311 There are also other buildings, residential buildings, 181 00:11:08,396 --> 00:11:10,913 So it's a really huge complex. 182 00:11:11,405 --> 00:11:13,750 But the most extraordinary discovery 183 00:11:13,835 --> 00:11:15,581 was still to come. 184 00:11:16,233 --> 00:11:20,530 While excavating the pyramid's foundation in 1999, 185 00:11:20,726 --> 00:11:24,430 Ruth shady and her team unEarthed the preserved remains 186 00:11:24,515 --> 00:11:28,176 of ancient mesh bags woven from a long durable grass 187 00:11:28,261 --> 00:11:30,140 known as Shicra. 188 00:11:31,193 --> 00:11:33,937 Up until this time, there had been no way 189 00:11:34,022 --> 00:11:37,093 to scientifically determine the age of Caral 190 00:11:37,437 --> 00:11:40,703 since it is not possible to perform radiocarbon dating 191 00:11:40,788 --> 00:11:44,418 on inorganic material like stone ruins. 192 00:11:45,601 --> 00:11:47,937 With the discovery of the grass bags, 193 00:11:48,022 --> 00:11:51,437 Archaeologists now had the organic material they needed 194 00:11:51,522 --> 00:11:54,733 to determine just how old Caral really was. 195 00:11:55,851 --> 00:11:59,429 And what they found was nothing less than shocking. 196 00:11:59,608 --> 00:12:01,391 Carbon dating of the bags 197 00:12:01,476 --> 00:12:05,429 revealed that Caral predated the Inca civilization 198 00:12:05,631 --> 00:12:08,051 by more than 3,000 years. 199 00:12:08,429 --> 00:12:10,562 This site went back at least 200 00:12:10,647 --> 00:12:14,694 to 2600 BC or earlier. 201 00:12:15,343 --> 00:12:19,305 So that was putting it back 4,600 or more years, 202 00:12:19,390 --> 00:12:22,399 Which made it one of the oldest sites 203 00:12:22,749 --> 00:12:26,616 As far as civilization in the Americas. 204 00:12:27,554 --> 00:12:29,914 Caral could be the mother culture 205 00:12:30,066 --> 00:12:32,076 of the whole of South America. 206 00:12:32,374 --> 00:12:35,664 The dating of Caral has really put into question 207 00:12:35,749 --> 00:12:38,874 The origins of civilization on the planet. 208 00:13:11,202 --> 00:13:14,719 The dating of Caral to 2600 BC, 209 00:13:14,804 --> 00:13:18,577 a revelation made just a little more than two decades ago, 210 00:13:18,812 --> 00:13:23,460 completely upended history's well-established timeline. 211 00:13:23,788 --> 00:13:27,203 And continuing excavation has produced evidence 212 00:13:27,288 --> 00:13:30,569 suggesting the site is even older. 213 00:13:32,569 --> 00:13:34,266 These discoveries at Caral 214 00:13:34,351 --> 00:13:37,500 are changing the face of South American Archaeology 215 00:13:37,616 --> 00:13:39,141 and we don't even know 216 00:13:39,226 --> 00:13:42,031 what new discoveries they're going to be making in the future. 217 00:13:42,116 --> 00:13:44,138 I mean, you have a choice. If you're an archaeologist, 218 00:13:44,223 --> 00:13:47,591 You're either really excited right now or really nervous 219 00:13:47,676 --> 00:13:50,216 because the chronology has been obliterated, 220 00:13:50,301 --> 00:13:52,896 and now we have to ask were extraterrestrials 221 00:13:52,981 --> 00:13:55,543 helping to advance us? And Caral is hinting 222 00:13:55,653 --> 00:13:56,849 at that as well. Definitely. 223 00:13:56,934 --> 00:13:58,778 Incredible. 224 00:14:00,824 --> 00:14:02,520 Have either of you been to Caral? 225 00:14:02,605 --> 00:14:04,465 - No. - No. - Well, this is great 226 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:06,153 Because on our video call 227 00:14:06,326 --> 00:14:08,411 is our good friend Brien Foerster 228 00:14:08,496 --> 00:14:09,722 and he's just been to Caral, 229 00:14:09,807 --> 00:14:11,294 - Awesome. - and I can't wait to hear 230 00:14:11,379 --> 00:14:13,613 - what he has to report to us. - Absolutely. - Oh, right. 231 00:14:14,121 --> 00:14:15,817 Hey, Brien. Good to see you. 232 00:14:15,902 --> 00:14:17,395 - Hi, Brien. - Gentlemen. 233 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,622 - It's been a long time. - Hi, Brrien. 234 00:14:18,707 --> 00:14:20,255 Always a pleasure to visit 235 00:14:20,340 --> 00:14:22,629 with my ancient aliens compatriots. 236 00:14:23,394 --> 00:14:26,003 - Are you at your house in paracas? - Yeah. 237 00:14:26,152 --> 00:14:28,020 I've just come back from an incredible 238 00:14:28,105 --> 00:14:29,887 Ancient site called Caral 239 00:14:29,972 --> 00:14:31,972 on the central coast of Peru... 240 00:14:32,691 --> 00:14:35,184 Caral has only been excavated 241 00:14:35,285 --> 00:14:38,316 for possibly the last 20 or 30 years. 242 00:14:38,453 --> 00:14:40,637 It was a huge trading center 243 00:14:40,722 --> 00:14:44,340 that connected the coast of Peru, the highlands of Peru, 244 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,480 and even the Amazon jungle 4,500 years ago. 245 00:14:49,965 --> 00:14:51,934 Aside from featuring the remains 246 00:14:52,019 --> 00:14:54,614 of many impressive ancient structures, 247 00:14:54,699 --> 00:14:57,074 Caral appears to have been designed 248 00:14:57,159 --> 00:14:59,722 very much like a modern Metropolis 249 00:14:59,980 --> 00:15:03,957 with specific districts dedicated to various trades, 250 00:15:04,129 --> 00:15:07,926 along with dwellings for as many as 3,000 inhabitants. 251 00:15:08,104 --> 00:15:09,833 At Caral, 252 00:15:09,918 --> 00:15:13,427 we've got this incredible urban planning. 253 00:15:13,605 --> 00:15:17,668 It has indications of the use of science. 254 00:15:18,612 --> 00:15:21,692 Definitely engineering, definitely mathematics, 255 00:15:21,777 --> 00:15:24,674 when we start looking at the planning, the structure 256 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:27,355 of these particular sites. 257 00:15:28,097 --> 00:15:31,622 It's a huge complex. They're discovering more and more of it. 258 00:15:31,707 --> 00:15:33,653 So as you drive off the highway 259 00:15:33,738 --> 00:15:36,093 towards Caral, there are ruins on the left side 260 00:15:36,177 --> 00:15:38,317 and the right side going on for miles. 261 00:15:38,402 --> 00:15:40,835 So it was a very major center. 262 00:15:40,928 --> 00:15:43,538 Probably the most incredible thing is the central pyramid. 263 00:15:43,623 --> 00:15:47,382 It's quite massive, and the excavations are ongoing. 264 00:15:48,528 --> 00:15:50,788 Standing some 90 feet tall, 265 00:15:50,874 --> 00:15:55,100 The great pyramid of Caral occupies an area of five acres 266 00:15:55,249 --> 00:15:57,608 Or nearly four football fields. 267 00:15:58,710 --> 00:16:00,655 A 30-foot-wide staircase rises 268 00:16:00,784 --> 00:16:04,749 From a Sunken circular Plaza at the base of the pyramid 269 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,929 Passing over three terraced levels 270 00:16:08,249 --> 00:16:10,991 Until it reaches the top of a platform 271 00:16:11,186 --> 00:16:13,631 That features the remains of a large atrium 272 00:16:13,882 --> 00:16:17,785 And some kind of structure designed for continuous burning. 273 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,812 But just what was its purpose? 274 00:16:21,132 --> 00:16:23,566 It's quite tall, and it's thought that 275 00:16:24,186 --> 00:16:26,857 The ceremonial aspect of the site was carried out 276 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:29,192 from the top of this particular pyramid. 277 00:16:29,378 --> 00:16:32,373 And the chief priests, or Shaman, 278 00:16:32,458 --> 00:16:35,279 could actually see over the whole domain of Caral 279 00:16:35,364 --> 00:16:38,821 And actually almost see to the coast on a clear day. 280 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:43,622 And so it could have been used for astronomical observations. 281 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:47,880 Recently unEarthed archaeological evidence 282 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:50,185 suggests that, during the same period, 283 00:16:50,270 --> 00:16:53,052 approximately 4,600 years ago, 284 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:56,192 while Ziggurats were being built in Mesopotamia, 285 00:16:56,301 --> 00:16:59,825 as well as the step pyramids in Egypt, 286 00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:02,039 incredibly similar structures 287 00:17:02,124 --> 00:17:04,773 were being constructed in Caral. 288 00:17:06,645 --> 00:17:09,193 Was this by pure coincidence? 289 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:13,474 Ancient Astronaut Theorists believe the evidence suggests 290 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:16,411 they could be profoundly connected. 291 00:17:16,934 --> 00:17:21,130 It's almost as if there was some kind of syzygy going on 292 00:17:21,253 --> 00:17:26,232 between Egypt and the Caral civilization 293 00:17:26,317 --> 00:17:30,348 of northern Peru at exactly the same time. 294 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:35,137 These monuments quite clearly are meant 295 00:17:35,221 --> 00:17:38,395 to connect us with otherworldly environments. 296 00:17:38,956 --> 00:17:43,902 They were both constructed around 2600 BC. 297 00:17:44,129 --> 00:17:47,340 I find that very intriguing indeed. 298 00:17:48,216 --> 00:17:50,920 Caral is dated to about the same time 299 00:17:51,005 --> 00:17:53,498 that the Saqqara step pyramid was built. 300 00:17:53,583 --> 00:17:56,050 Do you see a correspondence between those two sites? 301 00:17:56,134 --> 00:17:58,591 It's just curious that this timeline 302 00:17:58,676 --> 00:18:02,864 keeps coming up about ancient places being 4,500 years old. 303 00:18:03,152 --> 00:18:04,959 Like the pyramids in Egypt 304 00:18:05,044 --> 00:18:07,146 and other locations around the world. 305 00:18:07,231 --> 00:18:09,560 I think that there was a pre-flood civilization, 306 00:18:09,645 --> 00:18:13,349 everything collapsed and then around this period... 3000 bc... 307 00:18:13,434 --> 00:18:16,130 Then all of a sudden there's this reset in the ancient world. 308 00:18:16,229 --> 00:18:18,276 Yeah, that very much seems to be the case. 309 00:18:19,247 --> 00:18:22,372 In ancient traditions around the world, 310 00:18:22,614 --> 00:18:24,779 there are accounts of a lost civilization 311 00:18:24,864 --> 00:18:29,301 that existed on Earth that was destroyed by a great flood... 312 00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:32,769 ...such as the vedas texts of India, 313 00:18:33,145 --> 00:18:36,856 The Babylonian Poem the epic of Gilgamesh, 314 00:18:37,090 --> 00:18:39,276 The Bible's Book of Genesis, 315 00:18:39,411 --> 00:18:42,801 and the Incan myth of the Unu Pachakuti. 316 00:18:43,197 --> 00:18:46,267 According to geologist Dr. Robert Schoch, 317 00:18:46,351 --> 00:18:48,810 a growing body of evidence suggests 318 00:18:48,895 --> 00:18:51,955 that these stories are based on historical events, 319 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:53,774 and that such a cataclysm 320 00:18:53,858 --> 00:18:56,223 may actually have occurred around the end 321 00:18:56,348 --> 00:19:00,512 of the last ice age 12,000 years ago. 322 00:19:01,473 --> 00:19:05,748 We now know, based on a lot of geological data, 323 00:19:05,833 --> 00:19:08,145 that there were incredible 324 00:19:08,317 --> 00:19:11,690 climatic changes at the end of the last ice age. 325 00:19:11,908 --> 00:19:14,191 My work has put it all together that 326 00:19:14,276 --> 00:19:17,980 this was based on major solar outbursts that change conditions 327 00:19:18,065 --> 00:19:20,324 on the surface of the Earth dramatically. 328 00:19:20,476 --> 00:19:23,800 And to make a very big story very short, 329 00:19:23,885 --> 00:19:26,823 There were well-developed cultures, 330 00:19:26,908 --> 00:19:31,097 sophisticated cultures, civilization on Earth 331 00:19:31,182 --> 00:19:34,094 that were devastated by the events 332 00:19:34,179 --> 00:19:37,167 at the end of the last ice age. 333 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,757 According to Dr. Schoch, 334 00:19:39,851 --> 00:19:43,290 this cataclysm thrust humanity into a dark age 335 00:19:43,375 --> 00:19:45,407 for thousands of years. 336 00:19:45,492 --> 00:19:48,742 Until new civilizations emerged around the globe 337 00:19:48,914 --> 00:19:51,953 at remarkably similar times. 338 00:19:52,976 --> 00:19:57,351 After thousands of years, civilizations reemerged 339 00:19:57,453 --> 00:19:59,376 around the same time period, 340 00:19:59,461 --> 00:20:02,493 between about 3500 BC 341 00:20:02,578 --> 00:20:05,414 to 2500 BC or so. 342 00:20:05,547 --> 00:20:09,617 We have that in the old world with Egypt, 343 00:20:09,843 --> 00:20:11,518 With Mesopotamia, 344 00:20:12,195 --> 00:20:16,086 in Asia with the Chinese cultures. 345 00:20:16,685 --> 00:20:21,469 Caral is, I believe, evidence of this in the Americas 346 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:25,031 of the reemergence of civilization. 347 00:20:25,578 --> 00:20:28,351 Can you tell us why, in your opinion, 348 00:20:28,436 --> 00:20:31,008 it is such an important ancient site? 349 00:20:31,093 --> 00:20:32,773 I think the most important thing was that 350 00:20:32,858 --> 00:20:35,671 People of Caral were in some way connected 351 00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:38,709 to the ancient deity called Viracocha, 352 00:20:38,842 --> 00:20:40,952 which we find in other cultures in Peru 353 00:20:41,037 --> 00:20:42,859 and other locations around the world. 354 00:20:42,952 --> 00:20:46,265 - Wow. - They found the gourd buried near Caral 355 00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:49,015 that had the image of the staff God on it, 356 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:50,405 And they were able to date it to... 357 00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:52,765 What? Like, 2300 BC? Meaning it was created 358 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:55,468 - by people who lived at Caral. - Yeah. Exactly. 359 00:20:55,553 --> 00:20:59,178 It makes Caral the oldest radiocarbon-tested 360 00:20:59,263 --> 00:21:02,053 ceremonial complex in the Americas. 361 00:21:05,404 --> 00:21:08,014 It is quite likely that the people of Caral 362 00:21:08,099 --> 00:21:10,184 were in some way connected to the... 363 00:21:10,303 --> 00:21:14,319 Ancient deity called Viracocha, which we find in other cultures 364 00:21:14,404 --> 00:21:16,389 in Peru and other locations around the world. 365 00:21:16,474 --> 00:21:20,102 So you're referring to the so-called staff God, right? 366 00:21:20,187 --> 00:21:22,105 The guy with the two staffs. 367 00:21:22,189 --> 00:21:23,412 Yeah, very much so. 368 00:21:23,497 --> 00:21:26,398 So the staff God that was found at Caral, 369 00:21:26,483 --> 00:21:29,812 I mean, it's really the same guy Viracocha, 370 00:21:29,897 --> 00:21:32,282 on the Gate of the Sun at Tiahuanco, right? 371 00:21:32,366 --> 00:21:34,523 Yeah, very similar. I mean, of course, 372 00:21:34,608 --> 00:21:37,326 The, uh, depictions are relatively crude, 373 00:21:37,436 --> 00:21:39,413 but they seem... It-It seems to depict 374 00:21:39,498 --> 00:21:44,897 the same kind of deity or ancestor or ancient visitors. 375 00:21:46,225 --> 00:21:50,351 While exploring a burial site near Caral in 2003, 376 00:21:50,436 --> 00:21:55,069 Archaeologist Alvaro Ruiz made a remarkable discovery. 377 00:21:55,723 --> 00:21:59,452 One of the artifacts that is uncovered and recovered 378 00:21:59,537 --> 00:22:02,615 in Caral-supe is this gourd fragment. 379 00:22:03,717 --> 00:22:07,264 And on this gourd fragment is an image of this... 380 00:22:07,349 --> 00:22:09,897 what has come to be called a staff God. 381 00:22:10,076 --> 00:22:13,881 So it's this little guy, and he's standing holding 382 00:22:13,998 --> 00:22:17,295 what appears to be a staff in each of his hands. 383 00:22:20,037 --> 00:22:24,054 Incredibly, radiocarbon dating of the gourd fragment 384 00:22:24,139 --> 00:22:28,092 revealed that it is roughly 4,300 years old. 385 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:30,920 The artifact's extraordinary age 386 00:22:31,381 --> 00:22:33,483 suggests the deity drawn on it 387 00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:36,261 was worshipped by the people of Caral. 388 00:22:37,139 --> 00:22:39,991 But even more astonishing to archaeologists 389 00:22:40,076 --> 00:22:42,768 is the fact that the so-called staff God 390 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,523 bears a striking similarity to a figure 391 00:22:45,608 --> 00:22:49,397 worshiped by the Inca some 3,000 years later. 392 00:22:50,429 --> 00:22:54,601 The staff God was a form of Viracocha. 393 00:22:54,686 --> 00:22:57,460 And this is exactly the same figure 394 00:22:57,545 --> 00:22:59,694 that's seen again and again 395 00:22:59,779 --> 00:23:02,356 in Pre-Columbian Art, 396 00:23:02,561 --> 00:23:06,858 at places like Tiahuanco on the Gateway of the Sun, 397 00:23:07,068 --> 00:23:09,701 one of the most important structures 398 00:23:09,834 --> 00:23:12,631 that existed in South America. 399 00:23:12,928 --> 00:23:16,256 There you have exactly the same figure. 400 00:23:54,522 --> 00:23:58,327 Viracocha was the primary deity of the Andes 401 00:23:58,412 --> 00:24:00,351 going back many thousands of years. 402 00:24:00,436 --> 00:24:04,452 He was thought to be the founder of all the ancient sites 403 00:24:04,537 --> 00:24:06,718 we see in Peru and Bolivia today, 404 00:24:06,803 --> 00:24:09,366 including Tiahuanco, Cusco, 405 00:24:09,451 --> 00:24:12,867 Sacsayhuamán, Machu Picchu and many others. 406 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:16,205 And he formed them and built them along this alignment 407 00:24:16,289 --> 00:24:18,048 called the Path of Viracocha 408 00:24:18,199 --> 00:24:21,412 which stretches southeast to northwest 409 00:24:21,561 --> 00:24:23,911 across the whole country. 410 00:24:24,048 --> 00:24:27,076 This must have been, in our estimation, 411 00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:31,787 an important symbol because we see this particular symbol 412 00:24:31,923 --> 00:24:35,207 being reused and adopted 413 00:24:35,292 --> 00:24:38,420 in other places for several thousand years. 414 00:24:38,537 --> 00:24:42,037 So we see, basically, everything 415 00:24:42,122 --> 00:24:44,459 that becomes civilization, that become the Inca, 416 00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:47,608 we see in Caral-supe. 417 00:24:49,263 --> 00:24:53,350 It's kind of strange that, uh, the motif 418 00:24:53,435 --> 00:24:56,854 has remained, which would suggest that that motif 419 00:24:56,986 --> 00:25:00,915 was incredibly important to the local populations. 420 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,459 Well, that's a good point because 421 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:04,404 that, again, shows the connection between 422 00:25:04,535 --> 00:25:07,679 The same kind of deity or ancestor 423 00:25:07,889 --> 00:25:11,158 We see at Tiahuanco or Pumapunku 424 00:25:11,243 --> 00:25:13,311 Or in Cusco itself, 425 00:25:13,396 --> 00:25:15,814 - which is pretty incredible. - That's pretty amazing. 426 00:25:16,045 --> 00:25:17,858 You know, that... I mean, that there's 427 00:25:17,954 --> 00:25:20,455 something... that something has to be said about that. 428 00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:23,309 We, of course, have made the suggestion Viracocha 429 00:25:23,394 --> 00:25:26,858 may have been some type of a visitor from another planet 430 00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:30,135 Because also, the gear that he is wearing, 431 00:25:30,271 --> 00:25:31,654 For all intents and purposes, 432 00:25:31,739 --> 00:25:33,412 looks like a modern-day astronaut. 433 00:25:33,497 --> 00:25:35,749 - Yeah, true. - Well, if that were true, 434 00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:38,694 It would tie in to this whole 435 00:25:38,786 --> 00:25:41,038 worship of Viracocha that can be found 436 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:43,522 all throughout Peru and South America. 437 00:25:43,607 --> 00:25:45,412 Yeah, that very much seems to be the case. 438 00:25:45,497 --> 00:25:46,256 Amazing. 439 00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:49,648 Brien, thank you very much for your time. It was wonderful 440 00:25:49,733 --> 00:25:51,808 to connect with you, even if it's like this, 441 00:25:51,912 --> 00:25:53,881 And I cannot wait to see you again 442 00:25:53,966 --> 00:25:55,741 Face-to-face in person. 443 00:25:55,826 --> 00:25:58,803 That will be a pleasure. Thanks to all three of you gentlemen. 444 00:25:58,895 --> 00:26:01,623 - Thank you. - Thanks, Brien. - Okay. Thank you. 445 00:26:01,887 --> 00:26:05,073 And, you know, what a... See, to me 446 00:26:05,158 --> 00:26:07,557 The whole idea that this staff God only exists 447 00:26:07,642 --> 00:26:10,273 in south or Central America... No. 448 00:26:10,358 --> 00:26:12,488 No. It... that symbolism 449 00:26:12,572 --> 00:26:15,179 or that motif exists 450 00:26:15,264 --> 00:26:16,584 - Worldwide. - Worldwide. 451 00:26:16,668 --> 00:26:19,287 And it's well known in Egypt and Sumeria, 452 00:26:19,372 --> 00:26:20,686 - Ancient India. - Right. 453 00:26:20,771 --> 00:26:23,632 It's interesting, too, how when you look at 454 00:26:23,717 --> 00:26:25,671 The Viracocha God 455 00:26:25,756 --> 00:26:28,654 at the... on the gate of the Sun at tiahuanco, 456 00:26:28,739 --> 00:26:30,662 on either side of him 457 00:26:30,747 --> 00:26:33,952 Are these birdmen, birdmen who can fly. 458 00:26:34,037 --> 00:26:35,740 - Right. And what... - Coming to him. 459 00:26:35,825 --> 00:26:39,671 And what better symbolism to signify flight 460 00:26:39,837 --> 00:26:43,022 - Than showing people with wings? - Right. 461 00:26:43,107 --> 00:26:46,101 You know, I mean, we have the same thing in ancient sumeria. 462 00:26:46,186 --> 00:26:47,835 - Mm-hmm. - You know, it is quite possible 463 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,913 that this was symbolism to signify people 464 00:26:51,998 --> 00:26:53,757 coming from the sky. 465 00:26:54,628 --> 00:26:58,175 Curiously, examples of Godlike figures 466 00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:00,846 that are depicted as half man and half bird, 467 00:27:00,975 --> 00:27:02,842 much like the figure of Naylamp 468 00:27:02,927 --> 00:27:06,570 that was worshipped by the Sican people of Northern Peru, 469 00:27:06,655 --> 00:27:09,392 can be found throughout the ancient world 470 00:27:09,501 --> 00:27:12,483 from the Anunnaki in Mesopotamia 471 00:27:12,568 --> 00:27:15,845 to the Hindu God Garuda in India, 472 00:27:16,029 --> 00:27:18,296 The Tengu in Japan, 473 00:27:18,556 --> 00:27:21,325 The Birdmen of Easter Island, 474 00:27:21,533 --> 00:27:24,285 and the Kachinas revered by numerous tribes 475 00:27:24,370 --> 00:27:26,085 in North America. 476 00:27:26,813 --> 00:27:31,858 There is even a 44,000-year-old cave painting in Indonesia 477 00:27:31,943 --> 00:27:33,861 that archaeologists have determined 478 00:27:33,946 --> 00:27:37,319 to be a humanlike figure with a bird's head. 479 00:27:39,193 --> 00:27:41,585 We also have the local legends, 480 00:27:41,670 --> 00:27:45,944 and they're very clear in saying that Viracocha came 481 00:27:46,029 --> 00:27:48,917 - and gave instructions, so... - Right. 482 00:27:49,002 --> 00:27:51,094 - to-to create civilization. - Yes. 483 00:27:51,245 --> 00:27:53,898 To create these buildings. All these giant pyramids. 484 00:27:53,982 --> 00:27:54,839 Right. 485 00:27:54,991 --> 00:27:56,264 According to the legends, 486 00:27:56,349 --> 00:27:58,834 the knowledge of building these things 487 00:27:58,919 --> 00:28:03,374 was given by the so-called Gods from the stars. 488 00:28:06,944 --> 00:28:09,546 This has been our argument all along. 489 00:28:09,631 --> 00:28:13,897 that our origin of any of our ancient civilizations 490 00:28:13,982 --> 00:28:15,725 dates much further back 491 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:18,970 into our distant past than what we're being told. 492 00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:21,725 And that these civilizations all over the world 493 00:28:21,810 --> 00:28:23,664 - are more connected, - Right. 494 00:28:23,756 --> 00:28:25,444 but, archaeologists were saying 495 00:28:25,529 --> 00:28:27,104 - They had no contact. - Right. 496 00:28:27,189 --> 00:28:29,210 But now in South America they're proving 497 00:28:29,295 --> 00:28:30,600 that's completely wrong, 498 00:28:30,685 --> 00:28:33,163 And all of these cultures in South America 499 00:28:33,248 --> 00:28:36,850 into the highlands, into the jungle, all along the coast, 500 00:28:36,935 --> 00:28:40,006 they're all connected, and we have all the geoglyphs 501 00:28:40,091 --> 00:28:42,585 - All over South America. - Right. 502 00:28:42,670 --> 00:28:45,640 And, of course, Nazca is so famous for its geoglyphs, 503 00:28:45,826 --> 00:28:47,967 but Caral has the oldest. 504 00:28:49,115 --> 00:28:53,405 The Nazca lines present one of Peru's greatest mysteries... 505 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:57,568 hundreds of massive designs carved into the desert floor, 506 00:28:57,936 --> 00:29:01,038 created on a scale to only be understood 507 00:29:01,123 --> 00:29:03,289 from high above the Earth. 508 00:29:04,405 --> 00:29:07,337 It is estimated that the earliest of these lines, 509 00:29:07,422 --> 00:29:11,561 called geoglyphs, were made around 500 BC. 510 00:29:13,731 --> 00:29:17,484 But in the year 2000, while excavating Caral, 511 00:29:17,764 --> 00:29:19,983 Archaeologists discovered a geoglyph 512 00:29:20,068 --> 00:29:22,335 that they believe dates to the same period 513 00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:24,561 as the ancient city itself, 514 00:29:24,886 --> 00:29:27,875 which would make it, by far, the oldest geoglyph 515 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,436 ever found in per... 516 00:29:30,788 --> 00:29:33,647 Its shape is nearly impossible to discern 517 00:29:33,732 --> 00:29:36,634 from the ground, but when viewed from the sky, 518 00:29:36,792 --> 00:29:41,081 the profile of a face is clearly recognizable. 519 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:45,224 The geoglyph face is constructed of stones 520 00:29:45,309 --> 00:29:48,108 laid out to create the figure itself. 521 00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:51,506 It has its mouth open. 522 00:29:51,591 --> 00:29:53,867 It's looking towards one direction, 523 00:29:54,021 --> 00:29:57,366 and also it has what looks like kind of wavy hair, 524 00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,421 although this could actually be 525 00:29:59,533 --> 00:30:01,967 blood spurting out of its head. 526 00:30:02,472 --> 00:30:05,231 The Caral geoglyph is the oldest known 527 00:30:05,361 --> 00:30:07,272 in Peru or Bolivia. 528 00:30:07,357 --> 00:30:12,061 It's at least 2,000 years older than Nazca, maybe more. 529 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,794 and so it does suggest this was the forerunner 530 00:30:15,968 --> 00:30:19,553 to all the Nazca geoglyphs, and this maybe even influenced 531 00:30:19,652 --> 00:30:21,514 The Nazca Civilization. 532 00:30:22,616 --> 00:30:24,413 So all of this, again, 533 00:30:24,498 --> 00:30:28,575 seems to suggest a commonality. 534 00:30:28,802 --> 00:30:32,740 What I might call a super complex of civilization, 535 00:30:32,825 --> 00:30:36,418 So not just one civilization in isolation 536 00:30:36,528 --> 00:30:39,588 but a number of related civilizations 537 00:30:39,747 --> 00:30:42,129 That cover a very long period in time 538 00:30:42,214 --> 00:30:46,645 And go back to a very remote period ultimately. 539 00:30:47,243 --> 00:30:50,176 Yeah, you have to wonder about the geoglyph at Caral 540 00:30:50,261 --> 00:30:54,682 because the geoglyphs at Nazca are obviously meant to be seen 541 00:30:54,767 --> 00:30:57,111 - from the air by the Gods. - Right. Right. 542 00:30:57,196 --> 00:31:00,301 So you would think the geoglyph at Caral has the same meaning. 543 00:31:00,386 --> 00:31:02,161 And I've seen, too, where Viracocha 544 00:31:02,246 --> 00:31:04,871 supposedly told the Nazca people to make those lines. 545 00:31:04,957 --> 00:31:06,551 That's one of the legends. 546 00:31:06,636 --> 00:31:09,950 I also think maybe this is a type of calling card, 547 00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:12,793 And there are other geoglyphs around the world 548 00:31:12,878 --> 00:31:16,207 that correspond with each other because you have these lines, 549 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:19,284 these figures, these, you know, things wanting 550 00:31:19,369 --> 00:31:23,129 to communicate with the celestial realm, 551 00:31:23,214 --> 00:31:26,192 And you have to wonder why because 552 00:31:26,277 --> 00:31:29,575 - Coincidence no longer holds water. - Right. 553 00:31:31,864 --> 00:31:36,106 When the Nazca lines were first discovered in 1927, 554 00:31:36,489 --> 00:31:39,676 they were considered a unique phenomenon. 555 00:31:40,164 --> 00:31:44,083 But in recent years, with the benefit of satellite imagery, 556 00:31:44,168 --> 00:31:45,840 thousands of ancient geoglyphs 557 00:31:45,925 --> 00:31:48,677 are being found not just in South America 558 00:31:48,762 --> 00:31:50,513 but all over the world. 559 00:31:51,106 --> 00:31:54,020 In Asia, the middle east, 560 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:57,911 Africa, North America, 561 00:31:58,621 --> 00:32:00,606 and even Europe. 562 00:32:00,691 --> 00:32:04,825 The fact of the matter is that we have geoglyphs worldwide. 563 00:32:05,285 --> 00:32:08,661 And so you have to wonder why. 564 00:32:09,078 --> 00:32:11,772 The idea in the Ancient Astronaut Theory 565 00:32:11,857 --> 00:32:13,514 is fairly simple 566 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,518 and that is that our ancestors, 567 00:32:16,707 --> 00:32:19,442 regardless of ancient cultures, 568 00:32:20,014 --> 00:32:23,942 They were visited by the same teachers. 569 00:32:25,321 --> 00:32:27,848 There's another famous glyph, uh, farther south 570 00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:31,638 From Nazca in northern Chile called the Atacama Giant. 571 00:32:31,723 --> 00:32:32,520 Right. 572 00:32:32,605 --> 00:32:35,848 And it's actually the largest of all the geoglyphs 573 00:32:35,933 --> 00:32:38,200 In South America, and he too seems 574 00:32:38,285 --> 00:32:41,612 to be holding a staff, and has an animal with him. 575 00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:45,303 - Yeah. He's like this, kind of. - Yeah, like that. 576 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,895 - Yeah. - Uh-huh. - Right. 577 00:32:48,058 --> 00:32:51,551 Perhaps he's also uh... a depiction of Viracocha. 578 00:32:54,911 --> 00:32:58,082 To me, the most important thing about all of this is that 579 00:32:58,167 --> 00:33:00,942 the structures at Caral correspond 580 00:33:01,059 --> 00:33:03,973 - With the constellation of the Pleiades. - That's right. 581 00:33:04,058 --> 00:33:06,223 - And so whenever I see stuff like that, - Okay. That's interesting. Yeah. 582 00:33:06,307 --> 00:33:07,544 it's like, you know, 583 00:33:07,628 --> 00:33:09,473 All right, obviously, 584 00:33:09,692 --> 00:33:12,676 Our ancestors were able to observe the stars. 585 00:33:12,778 --> 00:33:15,457 Nobody's ever questioned that or debated that. 586 00:33:15,542 --> 00:33:19,661 The power of observation was huge and important, 587 00:33:19,924 --> 00:33:22,629 - But why pick the Pleiades? - That's right. 588 00:33:22,714 --> 00:33:25,825 They call it "heaven's mirror," is a term; using the expression 589 00:33:25,988 --> 00:33:28,059 "as above, so below," they're trying to create 590 00:33:28,144 --> 00:33:30,754 A physical connection to these places. 591 00:33:32,207 --> 00:33:33,936 The excavation of Caral 592 00:33:34,088 --> 00:33:37,606 over the past two and a half decades has produced 593 00:33:37,691 --> 00:33:39,989 a number of archaeological marvels. 594 00:33:40,290 --> 00:33:42,411 But for Ancient astronaut Theorists, 595 00:33:42,496 --> 00:33:43,930 one of the most significant, 596 00:33:44,165 --> 00:33:47,106 in terms of possibly explaining its origins, 597 00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:51,375 is its curious and seemingly deliberate design. 598 00:33:51,774 --> 00:33:54,770 What has been noticed about the layout 599 00:33:54,871 --> 00:33:59,078 Of the different structures and buildings at Caral, 600 00:33:59,938 --> 00:34:03,508 Is that they seem to reflect the astronomical positions 601 00:34:03,593 --> 00:34:07,422 of the star cluster known as the Pleiades. 602 00:34:07,955 --> 00:34:11,711 And this seems to be almost beyond coincidence. 603 00:34:12,671 --> 00:34:15,570 It's almost like a star mirror. 604 00:34:15,675 --> 00:34:19,634 We have the Pleiades in the sky, and it mirrors on Earth. 605 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,383 It looks just like Caral. 606 00:34:22,016 --> 00:34:25,375 The main pyramid would be the central star alcyone, 607 00:34:25,460 --> 00:34:27,969 And all the other structures in the complex 608 00:34:28,103 --> 00:34:30,352 Match all the other stars in the Pleiades. 609 00:34:30,437 --> 00:34:33,765 So there's-there's a real kind of theory that's come forward 610 00:34:33,850 --> 00:34:38,438 That they were trying to map the stars onto the Earth. 611 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,289 For Ancient Astronaut Theorists, 612 00:34:42,374 --> 00:34:45,813 the layout of Caral is made even more significant 613 00:34:46,343 --> 00:34:48,493 due to the fact that the Pleiades 614 00:34:48,578 --> 00:34:51,525 was also of central importance to the Inca, 615 00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:55,610 who would emerge in Peru more than 3,000 years later. 616 00:34:57,013 --> 00:35:00,273 The Inca had a very strong connection with the Pleiades. 617 00:35:00,408 --> 00:35:04,087 At their ceremonial center called the coricancha in Cusco, 618 00:35:04,172 --> 00:35:06,985 The rising of the Pleiades corresponded 619 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,219 with the planting of crops in September of each year. 620 00:35:11,016 --> 00:35:13,656 There's even a real Inca tradition 621 00:35:13,741 --> 00:35:17,235 of the ancestors coming from the Pleiades. 622 00:35:17,594 --> 00:35:20,086 So we have to question: Did they actually come from Pleiades? 623 00:35:20,171 --> 00:35:23,860 But it does suggest, especially along with the Viracocha figure 624 00:35:24,048 --> 00:35:25,094 that was found there, 625 00:35:25,179 --> 00:35:27,805 that much of the Inca tradition, 626 00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:30,803 the technology and sophistication 627 00:35:31,122 --> 00:35:34,914 may have come from the Caral-supe civilization. 628 00:35:35,301 --> 00:35:40,102 Could Caral really have been designed to mirror the Pleiades? 629 00:35:40,191 --> 00:35:43,876 Curiously, it is only the latest in a long line 630 00:35:43,961 --> 00:35:45,938 of ancient sites that have been found 631 00:35:46,023 --> 00:35:47,969 to mirror the star cluster, 632 00:35:48,172 --> 00:35:51,233 such as the winterbourne stoke barrow in England, 633 00:35:51,621 --> 00:35:55,078 The nuragic structures on the island of Sardinia, 634 00:35:55,373 --> 00:35:57,724 And Chaco Canyon in new Mexico 635 00:35:57,877 --> 00:35:59,894 to name just a few. 636 00:36:01,542 --> 00:36:04,516 The seven pyramids of Tikal are an example. 637 00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:08,719 The Pyramids of Abusir in Egypt is another example. 638 00:36:09,169 --> 00:36:12,178 The Tomb Complex of the Hongwu Emperor, 639 00:36:12,263 --> 00:36:14,110 The founder of the Ming Dynasty, 640 00:36:14,195 --> 00:36:16,620 it mirrors the pattern of the Pleiades. 641 00:36:16,767 --> 00:36:19,758 It's almost as if these ancient cultures are signaling to us 642 00:36:19,843 --> 00:36:23,047 or leaving a trail for us to follow that says, 643 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,267 "this is where our Gods came from." 644 00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:28,437 Or, "this is where humans came from, or the place 645 00:36:28,521 --> 00:36:32,781 that we're in fact trying to ultimately travel or return to." 646 00:36:33,227 --> 00:36:35,359 The Hawaiians say their royal ancestors 647 00:36:35,479 --> 00:36:36,531 came from the Pleiades. 648 00:36:36,616 --> 00:36:39,320 The Cherokee in east Tennessee say the same thing. 649 00:36:39,511 --> 00:36:42,696 So divergent cultures are saying exactly the same thing, 650 00:36:42,781 --> 00:36:44,235 and there's always the message, 651 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,962 "we were visited by beings who came from this star system." 652 00:36:48,047 --> 00:36:49,883 You have to wonder why. 653 00:36:49,967 --> 00:36:52,000 In this case, the Pleiades, to me 654 00:36:52,085 --> 00:36:56,539 Suggests that someone wanted to leave behind a message showing 655 00:36:56,711 --> 00:36:58,467 - Where they came from. - Exactly. 656 00:36:58,551 --> 00:37:00,561 I think this is fascinating because 657 00:37:00,645 --> 00:37:02,195 it's basically a calling card. 658 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,852 We're gonna go all around the planet. 659 00:37:03,937 --> 00:37:05,704 We're gonna build similar structures. 660 00:37:05,789 --> 00:37:07,250 You're gonna see our calling card, 661 00:37:07,335 --> 00:37:09,086 And it always wants you to remember the Pleiades. 662 00:37:09,171 --> 00:37:10,588 I completely agree with you, 663 00:37:10,673 --> 00:37:13,727 And, you know, the fact... Look, if there was only 664 00:37:13,812 --> 00:37:17,157 - Caral worldwide that had this thing, - Right. 665 00:37:17,242 --> 00:37:19,654 Then fine, there's no argument. 666 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:22,324 But the fact that there are dozens of examples 667 00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:24,333 like that in ancient times, 668 00:37:24,538 --> 00:37:26,139 That is the point. 669 00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:33,017 You know, this whole excavation of Caral has put 670 00:37:33,102 --> 00:37:36,125 the entire region into a new light, 671 00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:37,360 and if you think about it, 672 00:37:37,445 --> 00:37:40,195 This excavation has only just begun, 673 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,195 So who knows what we'll discover in the future 674 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,133 and what other keys we'll find. 675 00:37:46,477 --> 00:37:48,861 So are there amazing discoveries 676 00:37:48,953 --> 00:37:52,508 sill to be found in South america? There may well be. 677 00:37:52,593 --> 00:37:55,695 I absolutely think so because 678 00:37:55,780 --> 00:38:00,528 there are vast swathes of areas in South America 679 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:03,368 where, you know, who knows 680 00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:06,352 what we'll find in the future because there's nobody there. 681 00:38:06,538 --> 00:38:10,375 In 2019, archaeologists uncovered 682 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:13,178 an ancient settlement in the country of Bolivia, 683 00:38:13,263 --> 00:38:15,848 Just south of Peru, that dates back 684 00:38:15,933 --> 00:38:19,694 an astonishing 10,600 years. 685 00:38:20,136 --> 00:38:22,153 While excavation has not revealed 686 00:38:22,238 --> 00:38:24,506 a sophisticated city like Caral, 687 00:38:24,743 --> 00:38:27,371 experts believe that it is just one 688 00:38:27,456 --> 00:38:29,374 of many ancient sites still left 689 00:38:29,459 --> 00:38:31,827 to be uncovered in South America. 690 00:38:32,858 --> 00:38:35,499 And that it may only be a matter of time 691 00:38:35,584 --> 00:38:39,397 before we are forced to rewrite history once again. 692 00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:18,889 One has to wonder if one day 693 00:39:19,066 --> 00:39:21,683 Archaeology will agree with us. 694 00:39:21,768 --> 00:39:25,873 And I think that this is the direction we're actually going 695 00:39:25,957 --> 00:39:28,303 Because they've always said, "oh, you know, 696 00:39:28,388 --> 00:39:31,897 Everything is established, we kind of know everything." 697 00:39:32,013 --> 00:39:36,038 And the truth of the matter is... that they don't, and Caral 698 00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:38,303 - has proven this because - Exactly. 699 00:39:38,389 --> 00:39:39,693 when you look at these pyramids 700 00:39:39,778 --> 00:39:41,803 in different regions of the world, 701 00:39:42,577 --> 00:39:44,949 they correspond with each other. 702 00:39:45,366 --> 00:39:48,312 But the depiction of this staff God, one could argue, 703 00:39:48,397 --> 00:39:50,731 "oh, you know, this is just a deity holding a staff," 704 00:39:50,815 --> 00:39:53,014 Or whatever, but the fact that worldwide... 705 00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:56,093 not just in Tiwanaku, not just in Caral... 706 00:39:56,178 --> 00:40:00,928 We have this motif of this being holding two staffs. 707 00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:03,171 - Right. Right. - That is important. 708 00:40:03,256 --> 00:40:04,655 The message is consistent 709 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:08,323 that extraterrestrials were not only intervening but they were 710 00:40:08,408 --> 00:40:10,319 - helping to advance us. - Well, gentlemen, 711 00:40:10,404 --> 00:40:13,194 this has been a fascinating conversation, 712 00:40:13,311 --> 00:40:15,546 and you know, this is what's so great about Peru 713 00:40:15,631 --> 00:40:17,157 and that whole region because 714 00:40:17,242 --> 00:40:20,575 it continues to give us new pieces of information. 715 00:40:20,660 --> 00:40:24,085 Look, there can be so much more to discover, and, no doubt, 716 00:40:24,207 --> 00:40:26,200 It will shock us 717 00:40:26,409 --> 00:40:29,008 even more than what we found at-at Caral. 718 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:32,952 We're gonna find something irrefutable very soon, I think. 719 00:40:33,037 --> 00:40:34,444 - It's gonna change everything. - Right. 720 00:40:34,529 --> 00:40:37,335 And I really think that, you know, the more 721 00:40:37,553 --> 00:40:39,971 archaeological evidence we find 722 00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:42,858 that is connected to the stars 723 00:40:42,943 --> 00:40:45,126 with a combination of stories 724 00:40:45,211 --> 00:40:47,835 of Gods that once were here, 725 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,624 it'll only be a matter of time where even 726 00:40:51,709 --> 00:40:55,470 the most dismissive archaeologists will have to say, 727 00:40:56,132 --> 00:41:00,905 "Man. Maybe these guys sitting at this table were right." 728 00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:02,210 Exactly. 729 00:41:02,444 --> 00:41:04,577 Captioning provided by A E Networks Sync and corrections by srjanapala